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		<title>By: Peter Charnley.</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-60126</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Charnley.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although a world renowned and devout Christian himself, C.S.Lewis once remarked to a child who had sent him a letter complaining that she hated going to Sunday School because she was forced to go and found it boring - "I totally agree with you. All that you achieve by making it an obligation to feel is that you freeze feelings'. 

I think, in the context of 'Diversity Training', Lewis's words are putting it very mildly indeed.  Particularly when many of those who are being subjected to it are being dishonestly demonized from a blatantly hateful and extreme left wing perspective.

If you want to perpetuate division, resentment and loathing between people - demand, under threat, that they must not harbor such feelings.  And tell lies about certain members of the human race in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although a world renowned and devout Christian himself, C.S.Lewis once remarked to a child who had sent him a letter complaining that she hated going to Sunday School because she was forced to go and found it boring - &#8220;I totally agree with you. All that you achieve by making it an obligation to feel is that you freeze feelings&#8217;. </p>
<p>I think, in the context of &#8216;Diversity Training&#8217;, Lewis&#8217;s words are putting it very mildly indeed.  Particularly when many of those who are being subjected to it are being dishonestly demonized from a blatantly hateful and extreme left wing perspective.</p>
<p>If you want to perpetuate division, resentment and loathing between people - demand, under threat, that they must not harbor such feelings.  And tell lies about certain members of the human race in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Bowing to the Multicultural Idol &#124; OpenMarket.org</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-47600</link>
		<dc:creator>Bowing to the Multicultural Idol &#124; OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will now be hired by foolish college administrators to &#8220;promote&#8221; diversity.  Diversity training often backfires on the institutions that hire diversity trainers, and sometimes even leads to discrimination and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will now be hired by foolish college administrators to &#8220;promote&#8221; diversity.  Diversity training often backfires on the institutions that hire diversity trainers, and sometimes even leads to discrimination and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Racist Harvard Affirmative Action Policy &#124; OpenMarket.org</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-45040</link>
		<dc:creator>Racist Harvard Affirmative Action Policy &#124; OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] previously discussed the ridiculously racist theory of some &#8220;diversity&#8221; trainers that members of different races have inherently different ways of thinking, such as in our Supreme [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] previously discussed the ridiculously racist theory of some &#8220;diversity&#8221; trainers that members of different races have inherently different ways of thinking, such as in our Supreme [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A &#8220;Human Right&#8221; to Discriminate in Government Hiring? &#124; OpenMarket.org</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-43177</link>
		<dc:creator>A &#8220;Human Right&#8221; to Discriminate in Government Hiring? &#124; OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] training promoted by affirmative-action advocates can also be quite costly, as we explained earlier here and here, resulting in costly lawsuits by both white and minority employees, and spawning racial [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] training promoted by affirmative-action advocates can also be quite costly, as we explained earlier here and here, resulting in costly lawsuits by both white and minority employees, and spawning racial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diversity Training: More Proof It Is a Waste &#124; OpenMarket.org</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-42938</link>
		<dc:creator>Diversity Training: More Proof It Is a Waste &#124; OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about how diversity training backfires: It harms employers and employees alike, triggers lawsuits by both white and minority employees, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote about how diversity training backfires: It harms employers and employees alike, triggers lawsuits by both white and minority employees, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EURO-PEON (UK) LUNACY &#187; Kickin&#8217; and Screamin&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-41478</link>
		<dc:creator>EURO-PEON (UK) LUNACY &#187; Kickin&#8217; and Screamin&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] documents how diversity training is backfiring on companies which are being sued by its employees. love it when the pendulum swings the other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] documents how diversity training is backfiring on companies which are being sued by its employees. love it when the pendulum swings the other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-41026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 15 years ago I was forced to attend a “seminar” on diversity. The “facilitators” were two black women, one about eight months pregnant and the other with a non-intelligible Jamaican accent.

At one point we were broken up into groups and given resumes about who we were to hire among a diverse group of resumes. After we reported the reasons of why we chose our specific candidate, we were ripped for our preconcieved notions regarding the failed candidates.

At this point I stopped the facilitator and mentioned her error. We were given a task with the tools she supplied. We performed that task in the discussion group she assigned. We disqualified people as we were instructed to do. In other words, she criticized us for playing her game her way. The resumes were disqualified not because of the people, but because of the qualifications. We never met the people, never talked to previous employers, and never knew more than the bare information presented in a sparse resume. Please don't suggest I'm a bigot because you rigged the game.

At this point I mentioned that if there were only the two facilitators applying for the job they would both be disqualified. The pregnant woman because she could not commit to a minimum 90 day obligatory attendance training period and the other because her accent was so strong mistakes could be made in verbal communications. If the women came back and could commit to the training period and the other took language lessons then I would definitely reconsider.

Then the pregnant facilitator tried telling us she could do anything any of us could do. Of course, she couldn't work on the factory floor but she could do anything in an office. Someone else asked if she could run a photocopier all day. After she said yes, she would, it was pointed out that photocopiers often emit fumes potentially hazardous to a fetus's health with long exposures.

Somehow they did not accept they would not be hired, even though technically qualified, because they could not do the job. It had nothing to do with their being women or black. It was at this point my being a white male became an issue. 

At lunch I complained about being harassed because of my color to HR. There wasn't an afternoon session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 15 years ago I was forced to attend a “seminar” on diversity. The “facilitators” were two black women, one about eight months pregnant and the other with a non-intelligible Jamaican accent.</p>
<p>At one point we were broken up into groups and given resumes about who we were to hire among a diverse group of resumes. After we reported the reasons of why we chose our specific candidate, we were ripped for our preconcieved notions regarding the failed candidates.</p>
<p>At this point I stopped the facilitator and mentioned her error. We were given a task with the tools she supplied. We performed that task in the discussion group she assigned. We disqualified people as we were instructed to do. In other words, she criticized us for playing her game her way. The resumes were disqualified not because of the people, but because of the qualifications. We never met the people, never talked to previous employers, and never knew more than the bare information presented in a sparse resume. Please don&#8217;t suggest I&#8217;m a bigot because you rigged the game.</p>
<p>At this point I mentioned that if there were only the two facilitators applying for the job they would both be disqualified. The pregnant woman because she could not commit to a minimum 90 day obligatory attendance training period and the other because her accent was so strong mistakes could be made in verbal communications. If the women came back and could commit to the training period and the other took language lessons then I would definitely reconsider.</p>
<p>Then the pregnant facilitator tried telling us she could do anything any of us could do. Of course, she couldn&#8217;t work on the factory floor but she could do anything in an office. Someone else asked if she could run a photocopier all day. After she said yes, she would, it was pointed out that photocopiers often emit fumes potentially hazardous to a fetus&#8217;s health with long exposures.</p>
<p>Somehow they did not accept they would not be hired, even though technically qualified, because they could not do the job. It had nothing to do with their being women or black. It was at this point my being a white male became an issue. </p>
<p>At lunch I complained about being harassed because of my color to HR. There wasn&#8217;t an afternoon session.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-40958</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A colleague of mine who teaches at several community colleges went to a "sensitivity training" seminar (required, of course) at one of his schools.  He said that the seminar leader actually told them that "being late to class is part of the African-American and Hispanic &lt;i&gt;culture&lt;/i&gt;--and we should tolerate that."  Being a director of a music ensemble, where lateness isn't tolerated from &lt;i&gt;anybody&lt;/i&gt;, my colleague had to muster up quite a bit of restraint to not call B.S. on that one.  I don't know if I could have stayed silent for that one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colleague of mine who teaches at several community colleges went to a &#8220;sensitivity training&#8221; seminar (required, of course) at one of his schools.  He said that the seminar leader actually told them that &#8220;being late to class is part of the African-American and Hispanic <i>culture</i>&#8211;and we should tolerate that.&#8221;  Being a director of a music ensemble, where lateness isn&#8217;t tolerated from <i>anybody</i>, my colleague had to muster up quite a bit of restraint to not call B.S. on that one.  I don&#8217;t know if I could have stayed silent for that one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spartee</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-40954</link>
		<dc:creator>Spartee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Psychiatry went through a similar moment with group therapy. It turns out that underqualified therapists did more damage than good."

Yeah, and phrenology was an excellent tool until all those underqualified hacks took over.

Some fads in professions are really dumb ideas no matter who employes them.  It often takes the reductio ad absurdum of seeing people who cannot obscure their obtuse and useless methods behind fine words before the fads are blow apart.

Corporations know such training is crap.  It is simply insurance against Jesse Jackson-style shakedowns of large corporations.

When it comes to any social science-spawned activity like therapy, diversity training, etc., I always ask if you can in any way measure the alleged positive outcome.  My rule is if people promoting the activity cannot provide me a reasonably sane *measurable* indicator of social improvement resulting from their activity, they are probably charlatans looking for a paycheck.*

* That rule has a codicil for people who take it to the point of getting killed to demonstrate their committment to their suggested program (e.g., Ghandi, Jesus, MLK Jr.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Psychiatry went through a similar moment with group therapy. It turns out that underqualified therapists did more damage than good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and phrenology was an excellent tool until all those underqualified hacks took over.</p>
<p>Some fads in professions are really dumb ideas no matter who employes them.  It often takes the reductio ad absurdum of seeing people who cannot obscure their obtuse and useless methods behind fine words before the fads are blow apart.</p>
<p>Corporations know such training is crap.  It is simply insurance against Jesse Jackson-style shakedowns of large corporations.</p>
<p>When it comes to any social science-spawned activity like therapy, diversity training, etc., I always ask if you can in any way measure the alleged positive outcome.  My rule is if people promoting the activity cannot provide me a reasonably sane *measurable* indicator of social improvement resulting from their activity, they are probably charlatans looking for a paycheck.*</p>
<p>* That rule has a codicil for people who take it to the point of getting killed to demonstrate their committment to their suggested program (e.g., Ghandi, Jesus, MLK Jr.).</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.openmarket.org/2007/12/26/diversity-training-backfires/#comment-40939</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments all, but people don't seem to get that companies are just doing this for lawsuit protection. If there was no harassment of businesses by the EEOC and similar state agencies then corporate legal departments wouldn't be recommending these things. That's why generally nobody cares if you walk out early on these sessions, as one commenter says she did; they're just going through the motions to inoculate themselves against discrimination lawsuits. I work regularly in both Canada and the USA; although Canada is crawling with political correctness, "diversity training" is very rare. Why? Because there is no EEOC in Canada, no class-action discrimination lawsuits, no &lt;i&gt;Briggs v. Duke&lt;/i&gt;, et cetera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments all, but people don&#8217;t seem to get that companies are just doing this for lawsuit protection. If there was no harassment of businesses by the EEOC and similar state agencies then corporate legal departments wouldn&#8217;t be recommending these things. That&#8217;s why generally nobody cares if you walk out early on these sessions, as one commenter says she did; they&#8217;re just going through the motions to inoculate themselves against discrimination lawsuits. I work regularly in both Canada and the USA; although Canada is crawling with political correctness, &#8220;diversity training&#8221; is very rare. Why? Because there is no EEOC in Canada, no class-action discrimination lawsuits, no <i>Briggs v. Duke</i>, et cetera.</p>
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