The TSA doesn’t have very many friends these days. Do they deserve any?
In an interview (halfway down on the left sidebar), John Pistole (TSA director) was pressed twice at why the gentleman from San Francisco was told that he might be subject to a $10,000 fine for his unwillingness to go through with new invasive security procedures. He dodged this question both times it was asked, despite it being critically important for him to acknowledge how outrageous this type of fine would be.
For a background on what happened, you can read an account here. According to Tyner, he had looked at the San Diego Airport’s website ahead of time, which didn’t indicate that they were using these scanners. He didn’t feel comfortable using them and it seems he might not have made his trip (or driven instead, etc.) if he knew he would be subjected to the scanners.
So, when he was selected for the scan, he refused, then refused the pat-down when he found out the TSA agent would be patting down his private parts. The recurring attitude featured by the TSA, etc., here is that the peasant-citizenry should have no qualms with the enlightened technocrats and their unfortunate but necessary intrusion into the privacy of everyday Americans.
Even if you accept the premise that these technologies are necessary to keep our flights safe (which many people don’t), it doesn’t follow that he has violated any sort of reasonable law. He didn’t believe the benefits of his vacation outweighed the costs of his loss of privacy, so he “accepted” not being allowed to fly. What is the point of also attempting to fine him $10,000 other than bullying other Americans towards acceptance of these new procedures?
Many free-marketeers have suggested the U.S. would benefit from returning to non-nationalized airport security. It certainly makes sense — after all, airlines stand to lose a lot of money if anything goes wrong on their planes. In a security game that involves keeping up with ever-changing terrorist threats (i.e., 10 years ago, we could wear shoes and not need to buy new contact solution every time we left town), I trust the profit-seekers over the government to find an appropriate balance between consumer demands for privacy and airline security.
Is the TSA capable of finding that balance? Here is the TSA patting down a three-year-old. They also require pilots to go through the same security procedures (remember, pilots have the ability to steer planes into buildings), who undoubtedly already go through long background checks before they become licensed pilots.
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Send e-mails to airlines that you used to fly frequently, let them know they lost your business. They can apply more pressure on the govt.
By rhese days it seems there is a war against TSA……….remember we are the first line on duty against terrorism and threats to Our country….to all of you who are reading this I must remember there is a war against our Country and the only thing we are asking fellow citizens is go throu any tests required to ensure the safety of the airspace….if you don't follow the Rules you are putting at risk other citizens and the country at risk…we all understand privacy matters but we ALL have to remember what happened on Sept 11 and we are in the line of duty to avoid this happen again and I will do my best to preserve my Country and those who live in it.
Thank you. Carlos M Guillen. TSA Member.
God Bless America.
Your either very dumb or I don't have an explanation. How about the 200 people in line waiting to get through your machine. What security do you have for them if someone had a bomb there? What if someone brought one to a mall on the holidays? What if someone brought one to a sporting event? You don't protect jack $h1t!
Mr. Guillen, who are we at war with? I recall no declaration of war from Congress. If we are at war then how and when do we achieve victory? When does "Code Orange" go away? When there a no "bad people" left in the world?
This is the definition of Terrorism for the World English Dictionary:
terrorism – systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal
Sound more like the daily standard operating procedure of the TSA than any Islamic radicals.
@Carlos M Guillen: While I admire your sense of duty to preserve the security of the flying public, I don't subscribe to the idea of abrogating fundamental constitutional rights (particularly in this case, the 4th Amendment).
I have nothing against you, you're doing your job, and following the policies handed down by your supervisors. However the policy is flawed and potentially unconstitutional. And allowing that to continue only means that terrorist groups, like Al Qaeda, have already won.
911 was a windfall for the security industry. And any industry wants a growth plan. The best possible growth plan for the security industry is to keep inventing new threats and new, very expensive 'responses'.
Krupp industries played this game in the leadup to WW1. They invented new armor, then as soon as all their customers had all their battleships re-plated they invented a new armor piercing shell. Then they invented an improved armor. Sales just kept climbing.
I think we're seeing that same growth plan being applied to airport security. Got a new threat? We've got a new scanning device! They only cost a couple million each and every airport in the WORLD needs them.
There's no end to this unless the customers refuse to buy.
ABC News' Peter Jennings once called 9/11 a "watershed" for President Bush. I think that sums it up.
Fascism in the name of security ! What have we become! You're not fooling anyone. Leave my privates alone and you can keep you radioactive exposure.
Fascism in the name of security ! What have we become! You're not fooling anyone. Leave my privates alone and you can keep your radioactive exposure.
The GESTAPO is alive and well in the TSA!!!
I don't doubt the sincerity of the TSA member Mr Guillen, but I really do doubt the sincerity of both those who run the TSA and those who design the security protocols.
America is NOT under attack today! Many of the young men and women getting blown-up in Afghanistan today were in 5th grade when 9/11 happened – 5th grade! This nation has to come to grips with the fact that we are being railroaded into "security" by people who are making a fat killing out of our fears.
I think Osama and his guys actually won the whole war when they got us to waste this much wealth on "protecting" ourselves. All they have to do now to maintain that victory is an occasional, poorly attempted plot and they can cause the continued drain of the American economy by the TSA.
Sometimes I wonder if Osama & company are not invested in the corporations that produce our so called "security" in this country!
You can X-ray and grope every man, woman, and child in America and it will still not bring back a single person who died in 9/11. If we as a people are so panicked because of terrorism that we let the TSA trample our constitutional freedoms by treating all Americans like criminals, then the terrorists have won.
It's not about radiation, it's about the fourth amendment. There have always been terrorists (yes, even before 9/11!) and always will be. But if we give our freedoms away and make the USA a police state because we're so fearful, then what do we have left that's worth defending?
God Bless America.
@Revill Dunn
Airport security (previously paid for by airlines/airports and provided by private firms) was nationalized by Congress and President Bush following 9/11. Before 9/11, TSA never existed. There is no airport security industry anymore.
Revill Dunn said:
Krupp industries played this game in the leadup to WW1. They invented new armor, then as soon as all their customers had all their battleships re-plated they invented a new armor piercing shell. Then they invented an improved armor. Sales just kept climbing.
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Krupp Industries also built the gas chambers used in the German concentration camps.
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If the TSA wants my privates she better be cute on here knees and have a sweet mouth, then know what she is doing down there…..
Bubby, these days it seems there is a war against freedom, and ironically many of the people who claim to be fighting against terrorism are also on the side against freedom. Why have people forgotten that the very purpose of a government is to preserve liberty? What phenomenal cowardice it is for people to try to preserve the comforts, and securities that this nation gave them by selling their liberties. Those luxuries were given to us by the great men before us who sacrificed all for freedom! I am certain they would be ashamed of their posterity.
I respect the TSA employee's position, but he is lying to himself. We can choose, right now, to travel by others means if we don't want our privacy invaded. What happens when the TSA expands these procedures to trains, subways, ships and other means of travel?
The bottom line is that retaining our God given and Constitutionally affirmed freedoms is our best security measure.
Abolish the TSA.
Excellent write up!! Press Congress, The Senate and The President to weigh in on this. Kudos to the NJ legislature that took a stand on this before any federal law makers have.
wah, wah, wah… more vapid whining from a spoiled brat… don't like the security measures? don't fly! people are such gutless pukes nowadays…
Very forceful, from an anonymous commentor.
If you drive a car, your lifetime risk of dying in an auto accident is 1 in 100, and the probability of an injury requiring hospital treatment is 5 in 100.
The risk of dying in an airplane is much less, even with terror attacks. The only reason that we have this "security theater" is that career federal bureaucrats now have careers based on making us "safe" no matter what the cost or indignity.
Surly there should be some level of anti-terrorist security. There is a good case that this security should concentrate on police work rather than underwear searches.
Schneier.com – The Comparative Risk of Terrorism
- – schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/the_comparative.html
Schneier.com – Beyond Security Theater
- – schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/beyond_security.html
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